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A: Should a motor be disassembled for any reason, the rotor end play must be adjusted. Use one of the following procedures, depending upon the type of thrust bearing:
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1. Spherical Roller Thrust Bearings and Angular Contact Bearings (With Springs)
On spherical roller or angular contact thrust bearings with springs, setting the correct end play for preload requires a controlled assembly method, due to various deflections internal to the motor and friction of locknut threads from spring force. An end play setting of .005 to .008 inches is required to allow the lower guide bearing to return to an unload position when external thrust is applied to the motor (see Figure 5). End play can be properly adjusted by the following recommended procedure:
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Place spring retainer, without springs and lower thrust washer of bearing, into upper bracket bearing bore.
- Using a depth micrometer, measure the distance between the top of the lower thrust washer and the faced surface on top of the bearing housing. Record this dimension to three decimal places.
- Add .005 and .008 inches to the recorded dimension to obtain the correct minimum and maximum settings range for the unit.
- Reassemble bearing with springs; motor is now ready to set end play.
NOTE: Certain motor builds require removal of the fabricated steel or cast aluminum oil baffle to provide access for depth micrometer measurements.
Motors built with spherical roller thrust or angular contact bearings with springs require a minimum external thrust load, sufficient to compress upper die springs and unload lower guide bearing from axial spring thrust. Refer to the motor’s spring thrust plate for required minimum thrust.
NOTE: Do not run motor without load for more than fifteen minutes, as lower bearing damage may occur and improper seating of thrust bearing may cause vibration.
2. Angular Contact Ball Bearings (Without Springs)
No preliminary measurements are required to set end play. End play may be set by any of the following methods described in this section.
- To correctly adjust the rotor end play setting on units with angular contact ball bearings, a dial indicator should be positioned to read the shaft axial movement. (See figure 7 for location of dial indicator.) The rotor adjusting locknut should be turned until no further upward movement of the shaft is indicated. The locknut is then loosened until .005 to .008 end play is obtained, lock the locknut with the lockwasher.
- Motors that have two opposed angular contact bearings, locked on the mount for up and down thrust, do not require rotor end play adjustment. The shaft, however, must be set to original “AH” (shaft extension) to prevent the guide bearing in the lower bracket from taking external thrust.
End Play Adjustment Methods
Method 1 (refer to Figures 6 & 7)
This method requires the user to install a bolted chain from the bearing mount back to a lifting lug, and rotate the locknut with a spanner wrench and 8 foot long bar until the dial indicator shows no movement on the end of the shaft. The locknut should then be loosened until .005 to .008 end play is obtained. Lock the locknut with the lockwasher. (See figure 7 for location of dial indicator.)
NOTE: This is the lowest cost of the three methods and requires the least amount of equipment. This method, however, may be less desirable than Method 2, as considerable locknut torque may be encountered on units with die springs.
Special equipment required includes:
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Locking bolts
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3/4” chain
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Spanner wrench with extension
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Dial indicator
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Depth micrometer
Method 2 (refer to Figure 8 - Utilized on Spring Loaded Bearings Only)
This method utilizes a spreader bar and chains to wrap around lifting lugs, a hydraulic jack (five ton), and a crane to lift the spreader bar. The hydraulic jack is supported by two steel blocks of equal thickness on top of the bearing mounting, with the jack pushing against the spreader bar. On very heavy solid shaft rotors, the rotor can be lifted by placing a second jack below the motor to allow the locknut to be turned easily. After correct range (recorded earlier) is obtained, lock the locknut with the lock washer.
NOTE: This method utilizes usual shop equipment and tools. End play settings can be checked quickly on larger vertical motor products. The locknut lifts rotor weight only.
Special equipment required includes:
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Large spreader bar with chains and locking bolts
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Overhead crane
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Spanner wrench
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Hydraulic jack (five ton)
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Depth micrometer
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Metal blocks
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Dial indicator
Method 3 (refer to Figure 9)
This method uses a one inch thick steel disc, with center hole for shaft end bolt, and two threaded hydraulic jacks connected to a single pump. Apply load to the hydraulic jack until the dial indicator shows no movement on the end of the shaft. (See figure 7 for location of dial indicator.) Pressure from the hydraulic jack should be relieved until .005 to .008 end play is obtained. Lock the locknut with the lock washer.
CAUTION - Excessive hydraulic pressure should not be used when setting end play, or bearing damage may occur.
NOTE: This method is directly usable on solid shaft motors, and can be utilized on some HOLLOSHAFT® motors with the use of a long threaded rod and plate. It is very easy to apply and settings can be checked quickly, especially in field service. The locknut does not see rotor weight or spring force and can be turned easily.
Special equipment required includes:
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Fixture with hydraulic jacks (five ton)
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Dial indicator or depth micrometer
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Spanner wrench
CAUTION: After setting end play by any of the above methods, run unit for fifteen minutes and recheck end play setting. If not within range, end play must be reset. All loosened or removed parts must be reassembled and tightened to original specifications. Keep all tools, chains, equipment, etc. clear of unit before energizing motor.
3. NEMA Frame Verticals with Thrust Bearing in Lower Housing
End-play setting on NEMA frame vertical motors with the thrust bearing at the lower end of the motor is accomplished by the use of shims on the outboard side of the upper guide bearing. The endplay should be determined before disassembly by using a dial indicator on the end of the shaft. After repairs are completed, the motor should be reassembled and with the original shims. The end play should be checked to insure the original setting remains. If unable to determine original endplay due to damage or other reasons, contact Product Service for values.
A: We most frequently use anti-friction / rolling element bearings. These bearings are characterized by rolling elements which separate the stationary part from the rotating part. Specific types of these bearings include:
- Deep Groove (Conrad) Ball Bearings
- CARB Toroidal Roller Bearing
- Double Row Angular Ball Bearings
- Cylindrical Roller Bearings
- Spherical Roller Radial Bearings
- Angular Contact Ball Bearings
- Spherical Roller Thrust Bearings
Following is a brief description of each bearing type listed:
Deep Groove (Conrad) Ball Bearings
Typical bearing manufacturing series numbers used range from to .
Deep groove ball bearings are available in open type bearings, shielded bearings (single or double), and sealed bearings. Open type conrad bearings, which are supplied on explosion proof 180 frames and higher and ODP/TEFC 400 frames and higher, require bearing caps to contain grease in the housing. Shielded bearings, supplied on all 140 frames (ODP/TEFC through 360 frame and on all automotive duty), can be used on motors without bearing caps. Sealed bearings, which are “lubed for life”, possess a reduced speed limit due to seal friction. These sealed bearings are supplied for customer specials only.
Double Row Angular Ball Bearings
Deep groove ball bearings are the most common type of bearing for electrical motor use. These bearings are good for moderate radial and axial loads. They are used in vertical high thrust motors as a guide bearing for momentary upthrust.
Typical bearing manufacturing series numbers used range from to .
Double row angular ball bearings are very similar to single row conrad bearings, with the addition of an extra row of balls. Because of this addition, these double row bearings can handle larger radial and axial loads than conrad bearings. Double row angular ball bearings, available open, shielded, or sealed, are provided on both horizontal and vertical close-coupled pumps, and on larger normal thrust motors as thrust bearings. Sizes larger than are not readily available.
Cylindrical Roller Bearings
Typical bearing manufacturing series numbers used are preceded by an “N”. For example: N2XX or NU2XX.
Cylindrical roller bearings are used on horizontal motors where high radial loads are present. Although equivalent in size to conrad ball bearings, cylindrical bearings have a lower speed limit and are only available as open type bearings. These bearings are not available for direct connected motors, and are provided upon special order only on motors with an overhung load.
Spherical Roller Radial Bearings
Typical bearing manufacturing series numbers used range from 22,000 to 24,500.
Spherical roller radial bearings are used on horizontal motors which possess an extremely high radial load, or on motors which require an extended bearing life. Typically, these bearings are wider than conrad ball bearings, thus. making special engineering more difficult. In addition, they have a lower speed limit than cylindrical roller bearings. Spherical roller radial bearings can not withstand axial loading.
Angular Contact Ball Bearings
Typical bearing manufacturing series numbers used range from to .
Angular contact ball bearings are supplied on vertical motors only. High thrust vertical motors using single angular contact bearings are capable of continuous thrust in only one direction. Multiple angular contact ball bearings can be mounted either back-to-back for up/down thrust, or in tandem sets of two or more bearings for extra high thrust loading.
Spherical Roller Thrust Bearings
Typical bearing manufacturing series numbers used range from 29,300 to 29,400.
Spherical roller thrust bearings are supplied on vertical motors only. These bearings can support extremely high thrust loads (up to 300% of standard thrust capacity) and moderate radial loads. Preload springs are required to supply minimum downthrust to bearings at start up in order to prevent bearing skidding. In addition, the motor requires minimum downthrust at all times to compress preload springs and unload the lower guide bearing for maximum life. Water cooling is generally required.
A: For the purpose of this test, a lantern battery of six or nine volts works best. Use a DC volt-ohm meter with a 20K ohms per volt DC scale. Battery and voltmeter leads should be properly identified. Alligator clips should be used on both. The motor must be completely assembled. Test the nine leads for continuity with the ohmmeter to determine whether the motor is star (wye) or delta connected. The delta connected motor will possess three sets of three leads with continuity between them. On the other hand, the star connected motor will have only one set of three leads with continuity between them, and three sets of two leads with continuity. Following are specific steps to take when identifying leads of both a star connected and a delta connected motor.
Delta Connected Motor:
Using an ohmmeter, identify the three groups of three leads. Separate these groups by tying them with tape. Attach leads to a pair of wires in a group, and observe the voltage drop from each pair of energized leads to the third lead in that group. Continue until a combination is found that gives a voltage drop from each of the energized leads to the third lead equal to one half of the battery voltage. The lead located halfway between the other two will thus be the corner lead of the delta. Repeat this for each group of leads, marking the corner leads #1, #2, and #3.
Next, use the inductive kick test method to identify the proper markings for the other two leads of each group. The two coils #3 & #6 and 3 & #8, acting in parallel, will produce the effect of a coil positioned halfway between the actual position of the two coils. The flux produced by #3 & #6 and #3 & #8 combined, will be perpendicular to the axis of #1 & #4 and #2 & #7. Opening and closing a switch in this circuit will produce a kick in coils #1 & #9 and #2 & #5, but no kick in #1 & #4 and #2 & #7.
Therefore, if the battery is connected from #3 & #6 and #3 & #8 as shown, opening and closing the battery circuit, the voltmeter will identify leads #1, #4, and #9 and can be distinguished by noting the magnitude rather than the polarity. The voltmeter can then be connected to terminal #2 for determination of the leads #5 & #7. Leads #2 to #7 will give little or no deflection, and leads #2 to #5 will give a substantial deflection.
In succession, the battery is then transferred to the corner of #1. Tie the battery between leads #1 & #4 & #9. Making and breaking the circuit will be perpendicular to #3 & #8 and #2 & #5, resulting in no deflection. However, there will be a deflection from leads #2 & #7 and #3 & #6. Placing the battery next on the #2 & #5 and #2 & #7 leads will be perpendicular to #1 & #9 and #3 & #6 leads, therefore creating no deflection. Leads #1 & #4 and #3 & #8 would then have a deflection, thus concluding the lead testing of the nine lead delta connected motor.
Star Connected Motor:
Mark the three leads with continuity, #7, #8, and #9. Clip the battery to the #8 & #9 pair, clipping onto one and flashing the other. Clip the voltmeter to each pair of leads with continuity between them, until a pair is found that produces little to no “kick” or deflection. This pair of leads consists of the #1 & #4 leads. Next, move the battery to the #7 & #8 combination, with the positive lead on the #7 lead and the negative lead to be used for flashing the #8 lead. The voltmeter is so placed on the #1 & #4 pair that an upscale deflection is observed on the “make” of the negative #8 lead. The voltmeter positive lead is then the #1 motor lead, and the negative voltmeter is the #4 motor lead.
Next, move the battery to #7 & #9 leads with the positive lead on the #9 motor lead, and the negative to flash the #7 lead. Identification of the #3 motor lead is then determined by an upscale kick. The positive voltmeter lead should be on this lead, and the negative lead should be on the #6 motor lead. Shift the battery to the #8 & #9 pair, with the positive battery lead on the #8 lead and the negative used for the flashing. An upscale kick will identify the #2 motor lead. The positive voltmeter lead will be found on the #2 lead, and the negative voltmeter lead will be the #5 lead. This concludes the lead testing of the nine lead star connected motor.
A: Specific types of winding temperature detectors include thermostats, RTD’s, thermistors, and thermocouples. Following is a brief description of each.
Winding Thermostats
Winding thermostats are snap action, bi-metallic, temperature actuated switches. Their purpose is to activate a warning device, or simply shut down the motor upon excessive winding temperatures, when wired into the motor control circuit.
Thermostats are made either with contacts that are normally closed (open at high temperatures) or contacts that are normally open (closed at high temperatures). The thermostat temperature switch point is pre-calibrated by the manufacturer and is not adjustable. Reset is automatic after a decrease in temperature. Thermostats are normally installed in the connection end turns of the motor winding. Standard procedure is to wire three thermostats together in a set, with one thermostat embedded in each phase of the winding. Open thermostats are normally wired in parallel, while closed thermostats are wired in series. Refer to the figure below for further explanation
As seen in the figure above, only two leads come out to the motor outlet box. The leads of a normally closed (N.C. thermostat) are marked P1 and P2. Those of a normally open thermostat are marked P3 and P4.
Refer to the table below (Table 6) for thermostat alarm and shutdown temperatures.
Table 6: Thermostat Temperature Chart
Temperatures shown in ° C
RTD’s (Resistance Temperature Detectors) are precision, wire-wound resistors, with a known temperature resistance characteristic. We use flat, molded strip type RTD’s that are only .030 inch thick. RTD’s are installed in the slot portion of form wound motors, and in either the slot or end turns of mush wound motors.
RTD’s used in motor windings are either 10 ohm, 100 ohm, or 120 ohm. Each type of RTD has its own specific resistance characteristic. The basic detectors are listed below in Table 7.
Table 7: Winding RTD’s
* Also available with 3 leads.
All the RTD leads are brought out to a motor outlet box. RTD’s leads are identified in sets, using C1, T1, T1, and C11, T11, T11 for the same phase. Since leads are always brought to terminal strips, the leads are terminated with fork-tongue terminals.
See alarm and trip temperatures based on the motor service factor, HP rating, and class of temperature rise.
Winding Thermistors
A thermistor is a non-linear resistance temperature detector, made from semi-conducting material. We utilize positive temperature coefficient (PTC) type thermistors, which have a resistance that increases with increasing temperature. Each individual thermistor has its own unique resistance vs. temperature characteristic. Thermistors are normally installed in the end turns of the motor. Depending upon the controller, they are wired either in series or in a ‘common lead circuit’. Both circuits are shown below.
The following is a brief description of the controllers and thermistors supplied by various companies:
Power Control Corporation (PCC)
In the past, we supplied PCC 600, 900, , and series thermistors. We now use only the series thermistors. A maximum of three PCC series thermistors are installed in the common lead circuit configuration. Do not install them in series, or false tripping will result. PCC makes numerous controllers, including a special controller for the therma-sentry system. The PCC controller brand name is ‘MOTOGUARD’. For non-therma-sentry PCC thermistors, the thermistors are internally wired in the common lead configurations with the leads marked TM5, TM6, TM7, and TM8. Lead TM5 is the common lead.
Texas Instrument (TI)
TI currently uses 4BA and 7BA series, PTC thermistors. The 4BA series thermistors are normally used on new and rewound motors and contain a copper heat collector for a fast response time. The 7BA series is normally used on existing motors, and contains only a small thermistor bead to ease installation. TI thermistors are wired in series. Three thermistors may be installed in series without false tripping the controller. Our procedure is to bring out all six leads and make the series connection in the outlet box. The thermistor lead pairs are marked TM1, TM2, and TM3. The standard TI controller is a 50AA control module.
Siemens
We presently use a Siemens Q-P, PTC thermistor. Siemens thermistors must be wired in series. Six thermistors may be wired in series without false tripping the controller. Our standard procedure is to install three thermistors in series and bring all six leads out, making the series connection in the outlet box. The thermistor lead pairs are marked TM1, TM2, and TM3. The Siemens standard controller is a 3UN tripping unit control module, which has an N.O. and an N.C. contact.
The following table (Table 8) shows alarm and shutdown temperatures (in ° C) for 1.0 and 1.15 SF thermistors, based on the required class of temperature rise.
The new Thermasentry® system utilizes Siemens BM thermistors connected in series and a Siemens 3RN controller.
Table 8: Thermistor Temperature Setting Chart
Temperatures shown in ° C
Service Factor
1.0
1.15 - UP
Purpose
ALARM
SHUTDOWN
ALARM
SHUTDOWN
Class of Temp. Rise
A
B
F
A
B
F
A
B
F
A
B
F
Open Motors w/o Ducts
PCC, PTC
105
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145
115
125
155
105
125
155
115
135
165
TI, 4BA Series
105
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145
115
125
155
105
125
155
115
135
165
TI, 7BA Series
105
115
145
115
125
155
105
125
155
115
135
165
Siemens
100
120
140
110
130
155
110
130
155
120
140
160
Open w/Ducts and TEFC Motors
PCC, PTC
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135
165
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165
TI, 4BA Series
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135
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TI, 7BA Series
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Siemens
110
130
150
120
140
160
120
140
155
130
150
160
Thermocouples
A thermocouple is a pair of dissimilar conductors joined at one point, in a way that causes an electromotive force (EMF) to develop due to the thermoelectric effects. Any given set of thermocouple wires has a known EMF vs. temperature characteristic. Thermocouples are only able to generate a low-voltage, low-power signal in the millivolt range. There are many types of thermocouples. Standard types include copper-constantan, chromel-constantan, and iron-constantan. Thermocouples are normally installed in the slot between coil sides, on both mush wound and form wound motors. However, if necessary, they can also be installed in the end turns. The standard quantity of thermocouples is six, installed two per phase. If quantity-3 thermocouples are specified, leads are marked TC1, TC2, and TC3. If quantity-6 are specified, leads are marked TC1, TC2, TC3, and TC11, TC22, TC33, such that TC1 and TC11, etc. are in the same phase.
See alarm settings for alarm and trip temperatures based on the motor service factor, HP rating, and class of temperature rise.
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MG 1 FAQ - NEMA
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MG1
1.1
There
is a specific example we are attempting to work through where two different
EASA shops ran tests on the same motor (results attached). There is a
conflict of MG 1-14.35 interpretation where the relative current unbalance was
approved but is being argued by the customer. I am reaching out to better
understand this standard to try to get this argument solved.
1.2
I would like to ask a
question about NEMA design letter A and B for motors. Could you please help me
to understand the application differences between these two designs? For what
type of applications do we use Design A motors and B motors?
1.3
Do you
have a standard that covers the motor to pump interface for 4-inch submersible
motors. I can't seem to find the standard on your website, but many manufacturers
refer to being in conformity with NEMA 4-inch.
1.4
Does NEMA MG 1-
and NEMA ICS 7.2- suggest or require that shaft
grounding be provided for motors controlled by a VFD? I am being told by a customer it is a code violation if shaft grounding is not
provided and all of my equipment suppliers say it is a recommendation and not a
mandate.Can you please clarify?
1.5
As per a project
specs, motors shall be NEMA Design B, motors came with no indication of NEMA
Design B either on the nameplate or the data sheet. When asked for confirmation, it was stated that motors are IE3/NEMA premium.Do motors being IE3/NEMA Premium necessarily indicate that motors were built to
NEMA Design B?
1.6
I
have a technical question regarding the correct interpretation of NEMA MG 1,
Section 14.4.2, where it addresses motors having a service factor 1.15 or
greater and can operate at altitudes higher than m “at unity service
factor”. Is this saying that they can operate with service factor of 1.0 or
only the service factor stated on the nameplate?
1.7
I have to replace an
old GE A-C Motor, Dual Voltage Repulsion-Induction. The plate on the motor
declares it a Type SCR, Frame 65A, 1/2 HP, Phase 3, Cy 60, RPM , Volts
110, Amps 6.4, Volts 220, Amps 5.2.
I cannot find any motors with a 65A frame, and I don't believe that they had
SCR motors this old (approximately ). So did NEMA change the standards? If
so, what would SCR have stood for in ? What would a modern equivalent to a
65A frame motor be today? How do I find out?
1.8
Kindly would like to
ask you, without obligation, if you could let us have any Information about protection of three-phase motors within the NEMA Standard (class 1, Division
1). We should know whether only 1 current rate (the so-called service factor)
will be valid over the complete voltage range from -10 % to + 10 %.
Will necessary information be found in NEMA MG1- and/or NEMA 12-12? If so,
will we have to buy this document
1.9
I have a NEMA motor
used to circulate water on the high school swimming pool and I was wondering
what type of greese and how often should I greese the motor it runs
continuously?
1.10
I am looking for a
NEMA Ratings and IP Equivalency Chart. I have a motor with an IP rating of a
44. However, I was told by the manufacture that they do not make a NEMA
reference on the nameplates for small motors. Would you be able to provide me
with a NEMA Ratings and IP Equivalency Chart?
1.11
I want to design
explosion proof electrical machine. Please give information about the standard, i will order the standards
1.12
According to
7.8.5.2, if unfiltered vibration level exceeds the limit of table
7-1 , and if the 2 time frequency component exceeds 90% of the unfiltered
limit in table 7-1, then the procedure in 7.8.5.3 may be used . If the
effective vibration does not exceeds 80% of the value in table 7, the
motor is acceptable ( per 7.8.5.3).Our motor shop
asked me to explain how to get the unfiltered vibration monitored per
7.8.5.3. and what is “ a complete slip cycle”. I could not
answer.
1.13
How might a soft
start impact the number of starts and rest time for HP motors?
1.14
NEMA MG 1 Table 8 has values up
to 250 HP motors. Can the table be extrapolated to large motors such as
HP? If not, are there A, B and C values that can be used to determine the
allowable number of starts and rest time?
1.15
Does NEMA MG 1 cover ECM's?
1.16
I am a rod pump
analysist and we are trying to set guidlines for our variable frequency
drive units. All of these units have NEMA D motors and I'm trying to find the
safe minimum and maximum hertz speed for these motors. Our motors are generally
anywhere from 30-75 hp.
1.17
I am looking to run 2
motors at the maximum RPM the can safely be run at. The serial numbers of the
motors are EV and GW. I was wondering what is the maximum
RPM the motors can run at, and what will be the side effects of running the motors
at this speed continuously? The reasoning behind this is we are looking to get
some rotaflex units to operate at higher speeds on the straight portion, so
that when the corner speed is decreased to a safe operating speed we will still
be able to reach our target strokes per minute.
1.18
In regards to NEMA MG 1 10.37.2 Standard for Locked Rotor kVA per horsepower do you have a rough
estimate of what HP size motors fall into each NEMA Code Letter category?
Example Code Letter H = 7.5 to 10 HP
1.19
I am in the process
of ordering a new 3-phase 480volt 7.5hp motor for our ferry terminal (hoist
application). I have requested the motor to be a NEMA design C, however the sales rep has told me that they no longer can make Design C because of new regulations.
They recommended I upsize to a larger horsepower Design A motor however I am
reluctant to do that since the hoist system was designed for 7.5hp. Is there
anything else I can do to ensure this new motor will be able to handle the high
initial torque of our hoist system?
1.20
Would a submersible motor (for sewer) be more
heavy duty (better quality, longer service life) if it complies with NEMA MG 1, Part 31 vs one that does not not?
1.21
Is NEMA MG1, Part 31 applicable for dry installed motors only, and
not submersible motors?
1.22
I am assisting with a large hydraulic forging press application.
There has been some disagreement amongst the engineers involved in the project
regarding how often the (15) HP, V motors can be shut on/off per hour.
Some of us are in the camp that these
motors should not be shut off during production (1 minute of pressing time and
8 minutes of idle time), however we haven’t found a reference we can point to
that spells out a motor of our size explicitly. We have referenced NEMA MG 10
as a source however we are looking for anything additional as to whether the
on/off function is possible. Do you have such a source or could you offer your
opinion on the applicability of using a soft start drive to turn off these
motors during the idle portion of the cycle?
1.23
Working on building
and qualifying a 400Hz AC Motor. The customer drawing is specifying testing IAW
MG 1 spec. MG 1 spec that we have, , only makes reference to 50/60Hz
machines. Do you cover the testing of 400Hz machine in any of the later or
earlier revisions/editions?
1.24
I am looking for
standard for slip ring motor. But cannot find it in MG-1. So I am wondering I
should look at which standard?
1.25
I am searching for
either a NEMA or IEEE standard for performing airborne sound level measurement
of large motors (> 150 hp). Measurements are typically performed three feet
from the machine either at no load or at rated load.
1.26
I have some motors on
some equipment which is from japan and the EX P. Degree is d2G4 is this
equivalent to the USA STD of Class 1 Group C, D Division 1
1.27
Looking at an electric motor NEMA rating is a NEMA L can you tell me what L means?
1.28
We manufacture electric motors in Guadalajara Mexico. so, I would like to know if exist the possibility to manufacture the conduit box housing in material poliamida reinforced with fiber Glass (30 %). (Nylon reinforced).The question is because, due the news developments material in resins reinforced have equivalents mechanical properties like the steel.Your reference 4.19.1 of the NEMA std manual
1.29
At some point of time in the past NEMA changed the values of Locked Rotor Code (kVA) of the motors. I am told Code " F" is really equal to new "E". At what time in the past year was this change was made? And is there a table available where I can compare the codes (old Vs New). I am currently looking at a plant which contain some old induction motors stamped with the older letter code. I need to calculate the inrush current but I am told Code letters are not the same we see in literature today. This induction motor was manufactured back in 90's.
1.30
I would like to clarify locked rotor current between NEMA MG.1 para code letter 10.37.2 and NEMA 12.35.1 design code. 1. which is order to priority to apply LRC in both code ?2. Can we using this motor, if when actual test LRC is more higher than NEMA 12.35.1 design code even though motor was designed by NEMA MG.1 para 10.37.22 code letter G.3. Could you kindly provide the reference or relevant doc about these issue.
1.31
Sir, I would like to know the minimum resistance and reactance value of a motor and useful calculation formulas.
1.32
What does motor type 56 FR mean? Could you send me some information on this by ?
1.33
Does NEMA have a modified Design Letter Standards for Premium efficiency Motors? If so, could you please share where I can find documentation on the theory?Please note – one of the books I used in my Graduate Studies “Electric Machines by Dino Zorbas” – page 231-- fig 3-17 (pic attached), illustrates the speed torque characteristics of the NEMA Design Letters A, B, C, & D Motors. I observed the speed of Design A motor drops between 10 – 20 % at starting of the synchronous speed; therefore, it draws very high current for that duration. Our Design Criteria constraints us to Design “B” motors. Question One of our Design Vendors used the term “Modified Design A” to describe a NEMA Design Letter for a Premium Efficiency motor. Some of the research I did indicates the cooling fans design was modified from standard motor construction, this modification is considered premium efficiency since the new fan design allows more cooling. Was the Speed/Torque characteristics modified in the premium efficiency motors?
1.34
Could you please help me understand the differences between the Traditional NEMA Design Letters A, B, C, & D, and the Modified NEMA design letters with respect to torque speed characteristics. Note that our Design Criteria requires Design B motors; however, I was told the modified A has the same characteristics.
1.35
Can you inform that which code is provide the fulfill information regarding the recommended practice for requirement of Resistance temperature detector(RTD’S) in AC generators.
1.36
What is the difference between these two standards in general terms? Can a motor be both MG1 and MG2? If they are different, is there a document that compares the two?
1.37
The NEMA MG1 standard states a “shaft parallel to foot plan” of 0.015”, but that incongruent since parallel requires an angle not an offset. Could you provide some guidance on how the parallel tolerance is measured?
1.38
I have come across an issue with the BA dimension (C-Flange face to the center of the front foot mounting hole) being different between motor manufactures. The Company A catalog has a BA dimension for a 182-4TC frame motor to be 3.50". Company B motors have some that are 3.50" and some that are 2.75". Can you advise if NEMA standards control this value? Also can you advise the NEMA standard that covers this issue? Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response.
1.39
1. We are designers and manufacturers of agitation equipment which use electric motors. We are experiencing no load amperage on fractional horsepower motors that is higher than the full load amps on the NEMA nameplate provided by the manufacturer. When we questioned the manufacturer on this, we were told "It is normal for small motors to have relatively high no-load current, especially if the line voltage is above nominal." Is this correct? 2. It seems to us that some motor manufacturers are gaming the NEMA standards when it comes to the horsepower and service factor specification. We are finding examples of motors spec'd as 3/4 HP with a 1.8 SF. Of course they are running at 1HP or greater, but take advantage of the ignorance of the buying public to extrapolate that fact. Would NEMA have anything to say about that or is it perfectly legit?
1.40
The question is in regards to Table 32-3 and the 5 degree C delta when comparing Rise-by-Resistance to Embedded Detector temperature rise. This maximum delta requirement seems to be a recent addition as it was not present in the version of MG-1. In discussion with generator manufacturers, I am told that this delta maximum is not achievable unless the embedded detectors are located in stator winding spots that are not hot spots. As a customer of generators, we would prefer that embedded detectors were in the hot spots. In hot spots, the delta rise tends to be 25-30 degrees C.
1.41
Concerning "NEMA Standards Publication MG 1- Revision 1", part 12.54.1. One of the given conditions is "Two starts in succession (coasting to rest between starts) with the motor initially at the ambient temperature or one start with the motor initially at a temperature not exceeding its rated load operating temperature.” I have been told that this means 2 cold (or 1 hot) starts "per hour," but I don't see the "per hour" in the specification. How should I interpret this?
1.42
Are there any guidelines related to motor power factor? I have a 200Hp, 460VAC, TEFC motor that was recently installed that has a 95% power factor, which meets the NEMA guidelines for energy efficiency. However, the power factor is .81. This seems really low compared to some other motors I've researched. I would expect it to be in the .85 to .88 range. This low power factor will cause the motor to draw more current. Although this does not increase my KW, it does increase my KVA, which will require the utility to provide more power. I thought the reason the energy efficiency guidelines’ were to reduce overall power consumption. Shouldn't the motor power factor be a consideration or am I missing something?
1.43
We have recently noticed an apparent change in the NEMA specified hi-potential test voltages.The specific section in question is NEMA MG 1-, Part 12, Page 2, Paragraph B.2.A that specifies a test voltage of V for motors rated 1/2horsepower and less and 250V or less.Previous versions of NEMA MG 1 specified a test voltage for these motors of V. This results in a 50% increase in the test voltage. We are concerned that the increased test voltage may be overstressing the motor insulation, as our motors are typically hi-potential tested at least three times (the motor manufacturer, and our customers).Please confirm if the V test voltage is indeed the current specified hi-potential test voltage for these motors. If it is correct, we would appreciate your comments regarding the reason for this change.
1.44
We have a little (big) problem concerning the dimensions of a type C flange (the motor frame is 182 TC). On page 59 of NEMA standards publication, it is not clear which plane the dimension AH is referred to (I suppose that AN means AH, in the upper drawing). Could you be so kind to send me a drawing with the real dimensions for a motor frame 182 TC?
1.45
We are seeing a reference to NEMA MG 1-22-61 in ac generator specifications. I am not sure what or where this reference comes from. I am looking in my copy of MG 1-, rev 1- and do not find a 22-61.
1.46
We are a producer of turbo generators. On a new project (32MW generator for 50Hz and 60Hz market), the customer requires NEMA approval certification. How can that be achieved? Is it via a notified body? Is it just by following design guidelines according to NEMA? Or any other way? Please advise, and respectively assign a contact for further clarification!
1.47
I am currently conducting HIPOT testing on an electric vehicle motor. I was writing to request some clarification based on the HIPOT sections of the NEMA MG 1 standards. The specific motor that I am testing has three ac phase cables connected to the windings. While reading through MG 1-3.01.7 and 3.01.8, I am a little confused if I should be including these in the NEMA HIPOT test, or if these cables count as an accessory or component that should be tested separately.
1.48
Is there a chart made that shows runout tolerances set by speed? We are in need of a guideline for acceptance criteria. Any help would be much appreciated.
1.49
I am looking for a NEMA standard that describes the criterion for material selection for low voltage motor frames. We have to decide whether to go for a motor with steel frame or a cast iron frame. Motors are 315 KW.
1.50
I got a request for a NEMA 320TSC adapter. What is the meaning of each letter (TSC) on the description?
1.51
When going over the revision of NEMA MG 1, I noticed a section that does not make much sense when being read. Section 7.8.5.2 Filtered VibrationThe second paragraph states that if the level does NOT exceed 90% of the unfiltered limit then the machine has failed and corrective action is required.The third paragraph states what to do if it DOES exceed 90%. In regard to the second paragraph if you have vibration under a set value, you should find that acceptable rather than failing the machine.
1.52
Recently we had a 350 Hp electric motor 440V/3Ph/60 Hz burned in 3 phases. Motor has only 22,000 hours operating directly connected to a centrifugal compressor. Company hired to do the repair job says that the source of the problem is that this motor has no code to operate with a solid-state starter. We asked the motor manufacturer and they answered that there is no such a thing, but repair shop insist in their diagnosis and said that it is in the NEMA MG 1 standard. We can’t find where in this standard is such requirement.
1.53
Can you confirm that the NEMA Table 12-14 efficiency values match the values for IE3 50Hz exactly (for the equivalent rating)? I may have outdated information, but there were a few ratings that did not match—88.4% vs 88.6%, etc.
1.54
I have a question about the Locked-Rotor Torque, Breakdown Torque, and the Pull-Up Torque Tables found in Part 12, page 10 of the rev. 2 MG-1 standards. My question is Are these tables the same tables that where used in ?
1.55
I have attached a tech sheet for some submersible pumps that appear to meet the NEMA Premium™ Efficiency standards. As you can see, these motor Hp’s don’t line up exactly with the NEMA min eff charts, so how do you determine if this will qualify for the NEMA rating? Does the Hp get rounded up or down to the next tier? Or is there another Premium Efficiency Chart that has more increments?
1.56
I'm wondering the difference between a 256TY NEMA frame and a 256TC NEMA frame.
1.57
The temperature rise limits in 12.43 are based on a maximum ambient of 40 degrees C, as stated in the clause. Both 12.43 and Table 12-8 are based on winding rise by resistance. The highest temperature rise values in 12.43 are 70 degrees C for Class A, 90 degrees C for Class B, 115 degrees C for Class F, and 130 degrees C for Class H. Adding ambient to highest rise results in maximum temperature limits of 110 C, 130 C, 155 C, and 170 C for Classes A, B, F and H, respectively. As I interpret it, a motor complying with the limits in Table 12-8 of 12.56.1.1 would be in excess of the limits of 12.43 by at least 30 degrees C for Class A, 35 degrees C for Class B, 35 degrees C for Class F, and 45 degrees C for Class H. Both clauses apply to medium motors, thus my perception is that the motor configurations are, or could be, the same.What am I missing?
1.58
1) I am working for Quebec government that takes care of health and safety for workers. We would like to know if there is any requirement (standard) concerning the maximum ventilation openings dimensions on a TEFC motor? Depending on holes dimensions, the fan could be accessible by a worker finger. 2) In MG 1, Table 12-8, the temperature values for a medium motor far exceed the values that would be obtained by applying clause 12.43. This appears to be a discrepancy. Please explain via how to interpret Table 12-8 and clause 1.43 such that they are consistent with each other.
1.59
We are having a difference of opinion on the interpretation of the NEMA motor standard regarding permissible runout on the shafts of JM frame motors. Can NEMA clarify to resolve the dispute? We interpret the max runout to be .002 for shafts for 143JM - 256JM, .003 for 284JM - 326JM frames, (per Section II, Part 18, Page 86). My motor supplier is saying that because JM shafts are an extended length, there is a caveat in the standard that allows max runout of .004 T.I.R. We can only find that this applies to extended length shafts on C-face motors in the standard.
1.60
In your MG 1 documentation, section 12.38.1, Table 12-2 (Locked Rotor Torque for Design A & B), why doesn't the table show any information below 1/2 Hp and what does the value '...' in the table mean?
1.61
Is there a maximum number of electrical motor starts (up to full speed) within an hour that is not recommended by NEMA to exceed? It is my understanding that the intent of a maximum number is to avoid damage to the motor due to excessive heat from the start load. Motor specifications include 150 Hp, 900 rpm
1.62
We have a question on Design C motors to consult with you. We understand that a Design C motor must meet the requirements of NEMA MG 1, at least conform to this standard on locked-rotor torque, pull-up torque, breakdown torque, locked-rotor current, slip, and etc. Do these requirements have an allowance (tolerance)? As you know, the Design C motor is designed as per NEMA MG 1, the average performance specification can meet or exceed NEMA requirement, but a small part of these motors may have a deviation, for example, some 25 Hp, 4-pole motors have a locked-rotor torque, 198 percent of full-load torque, but NEMA requires 200 percent. Are these 25 Hp, 4-pole motors with deviation belong to Design C motor? For another example, NEMA MG 1 requires 10 Hp Design C motors have a locked-rotor current not exceeding 162A at 230V 60 Hz, but some motors with deviation has an 8 percent higher than the standard current 162A. Can these motors be regarded as Design C motors? Do these Design C motors have to be re-designed to assure each motor meets all the NEMA requirements without any percent allowance? 2. You mention "resistance" test method when determining the insulation life of a motor. Where can I get information on the resistance method? 3. Does this standard include the small motor dimension standard for NEMA 8, 11, 14, 17, 23, and 34? Those are the primary sizes for this gear reducer family that I am working on. I looked in the MG 1 condensed version and it has the type of information I am looking for, but the smallest I found was the NEMA 42.
1.63
The explanation for sealed windings is very clear. We would also like to ask if there is a standard and definite definition of “sealed motor” in the motor industry according to NEMA the standard.
1.64
We would like to ask if there is a standard and definite definition of “sealed motor” in the motor industry. According to the NEMA standards publication, there is a classification of motor by “machine with encapsulated or sealed windings”. Can we say that such a motor is an electrically-sealed motor?
1.65
Attached is the NEMA Table 12-11 and on it we have highlighted two motors and hand written in what the efficiency value was from the factory testing. The value recorded when factory-tested is higher than the minimum efficiency value, but lower than the nominal value. The customer is contending that the factory efficiency testing must meet or exceed the nominal value in order to meet the NEMA standard. The article below leads me to believe otherwise and that the efficiency only needs to be at or above the minimum efficiency value. What is your or NEMA’s take on this?
1.66
Would table 12-11 still apply to a custom built motor that is operated at 50Hz but on 460V?
1.67
Our client is insisting that NEMA MG 1- efficiency requirements in Table 12.11 apply to 50 Hz motors. Would it be possible to get a letter from NEMA stating that NEMA MG 1- Table 12.11 only applies to 60Hz motors and does not apply to 50 Hz motors?
1.68
Section MG 1-20.45 did not point to the table in MG 1-20.42. We recovered the version and it does provide those values that we are looking for. We did have one question. The version removed some values from this table as compared to the version, specifically the values for 250 Hp–500 Hp for rpm at a range of –. Additionally, the note “This formula may not be applicable to the ratings not included in the above table. Consult the manufacturer for the ratings which are not shown.”
1.69
I am trying to verify the NEMA MG 1 requirements in-place at the time of motor purchase. Our motors were purchased in the to timeframe. Specifically, I am trying to determine when exactly Section MG 1-20.42 “Load for WK2” and revision to Section MG 1-20.45 “Subpart A and B” for motor became in effect. I have found a copy of the and version. The version does not provide Section MG 1-20.42; it is provided in the version. I was hoping you could provide any historical information on this section and when the Section MG 1-20.42 and Section MG 1-20.45 “Subpart A and B” revision came into the MG 1 standard?
1.70
Can you please elaborate on NEMA MG 1- Section 12.68? I don't understand how the dc voltage is up to 110% of rated voltage while the ac voltage to the rectifier should be rated for plus or minus 10%.
1.71
Our company supplies and installs diesel generator sets in the range of 2.5-2,000 kVA. We have a request to supply a diesel generator set for a public tender in Greece. The tender states that the generator of the diesel generator set should comply with standard NEMA MG 1 Part 22, among other standards (IEC, CSA etc.). I can't find any references to MG 1-22 in the free, condensed version, nor is it in the contents table of MG 1-. After some internet research, I have found a citation stating that MG 1-22 referred to synchronous generators. As far as I understand, it was part of previous editions of NEMA MG 1 and at some point it has been repealed and replaced by NEMA MG 1 Part 32 and ANSI standards C50.12, C50.13, and C50.14. Did I understand this correctly?
1.72
If a motor complies with NEMA MG 1, Part 31.4.4.2, does that mean it is compatible with 'V/f' type variable frequency drives only, or “vector” type variable frequency drives only, or both?
1.73
I need to know what parts of the motor and generator standard regulate the horsepower rating of electric motors. I am trying to explain in a civil manner to some members on a forum that the horsepower ratings of electric motors from the motor manufacturer itself are NOT inflated values as that could get them in hot water big time with you guys. I try to explain to them that companies that buy the electric motors are allowed to inflate the value, NOT the manufacturer of the motor. Unfortunately, the only way to make reason with them is to show direct proof from you guys what guidelines electric motor manufacturers most follow when rating horsepower of their motors.
1.74
I need to know the difference between a 254TC frame and 256TC NEMA frame. Also, if I could get a catalogue or brochure pertaining to NEMA ratings I would greatly appreciate it.
1.75
I have the MG 1 standard and my customer wants a 0.4 Hp Design B type motor, but it runs at 400 Hz. Everything I see in NEMA MG 1 is for 50/60 Hz. Please advise if there is another specification I am missing.
1.76
We have to clarify a customer complaint and desperately need the tolerance classes for a NEMA flange 9”. Is it possible to get just a short overview?
1.77
I was reading through NEMA MG 10 and noticed an error on Table 7. Under 2-Pole, column C, at 100 Hp, the table says the minimum off time between starts is 110 seconds. This should probably be 220 seconds. 110 seconds is for a 4-pole motor.
1.78
I refer to three-phase squirrel cage asynchronous motors. Until now, we ordered LV motors rated up to 200 kW. Bigger motors were ordered for HV. I would like to know if this limit for LV motors is according to NEMA MG 1 standard or is it possible to order LV motors until 375 kW (Energy Premium Motors)?
1.79
One of our vendors sells a NEMA 3.5 Hp motor. Can a NEMA motor be made that doesn't have a standard Hp size?
1.80
Regarding polyphase AC motors, is there a standard or guideline for current balance between the 3 phases?
1.81
What are NEMA's standard generator sizes? I am looking for sizes kW and larger.
1.82
I have general questions about NEMA motor nameplates.The NEC Chapter 430.32 is writing about a "temperature rise of 40°C" in case of overload protection. A continuous-duty motor with a marked service factor of 1.15 or greater or with a marked temperature rise of 40°C or less can carry a 25% overload for an extended periodwithout damage to the motor.What is the meaning of "temperature rise"? Where I can find it on the NEMA motor nameplate? Is this maybe the AMB?What is the difference of "FL AMPS" and "SF AMPS" I found on a motor nameplate? I think SF_Amps = SF * FL_Amps
1.83
I do find it a bit hard to understand how progressive run out is acceptable to NEMA. But of course, I didn’t write the spec. You mention longer shafts have more runout tolerance. Can you advise what the allowable runout would be on longer shafts, say 10” long or the longest noted?
1.84
I have several new vertical solid shaft motors that have progressive run out from the motor base to the end of the shaft, starting at ." at the base and increasing to .002" at the end of the motor shaft. This will continue to increase the farther I get from the motor and as such, my rigid coupling will have excessive runout which will not be acceptable to the sealing device mounted on the pump. (The Pump AWWA Std for lineshafts is .005" per foot, which is much tighter than what the motors have been machined to.) The manufacturer is refusing to help me as they say the runout of .002" is within NEMA tolerances. I can live with .002" of runout if it is parallel to the centerline of the motor, not progressive. I am looking for clarification on the specification and whether NEMA addresses progressive runout, as it is generally not an acceptable machining practice.
1.85
I have a big debate with contractor on pump motor, which is specified in our specs (NEMA MG 1 design B), while the contractor is proposing an IEC standard and insisting that it is the same as NEMA MG 1. Please advise me the difference between where the deviation occurs.
1.86
I have a question regarding the motor frame dimensions given in Part 4 of the NEMA MG 1 standard. There are several dimensions that are defined graphically (Figures 4-1 and 4-2 of Part 4), however no quantitative information is supplied for the dimensions. For example, Dimension O ‘Top of horizontal machine to bottom of feet’; Dimension P ‘Maximum width of machine excluding terminal housing’; and Dimension AB ‘Centerline of shaft to outside of terminal housing’. It appears that these dimensions are manufacturer-specific, however, there are documents labeled “NEMA” floating around the internet that supply values for the O, P, and AB motor dimensions, usually with the footnote that the dimensions may vary by manufacturer. Does NEMA impose any specific limits on the O, P, and AB motor dimensions for compliance with a given NEMA frame designation? Or are there industry best-practice standards that influence or control these dimensions?
1.87
In reading both the and versions, Section 12.41 "Breakdown Torque of Polyphase Wound-Rotor Medium Motors with Continuous Ratings" has an error in the table. The table shows the synchronous speed of the 50 Hz machine as 100 RPM and it should be RPM.
1.88
I have a general question concerning the service factor for standard and non-standard NEMA motors. Is it true that NEMA MG 1 prescribes a service factor of 1.15 for every motor or is this up to the manufacturer?
1.89
I cannot locate what the difference is between motor frame C56C and 56C. There is no evidence of C56C frame; however, it is used as the NEMA frame number. Can you help?
1.90
This question is in regard to the nameplate on single phase electric motors. Salesman 1 tells me that a voltage rating of 230V means that the motor will operate between a range of 207V to 253V (+ or - 10%). Salesman 2 tells me that a voltage rating of 208V-230V means that the motor will operate between the voltages of 187V to 253V (208 less 10% and 230 + 10%). Salesman 3 tells me that a voltage rating of 208V-230V means the same thing as 230V and will operate safely between 207V and 230V, and there is no (affordable) motor that will operate between 187V and 253V. What does NEMA say? Why the confusion?We have a situation where we need to make the best choice on motors for mobile equipment on our farm where we can plug the equipment into a building with a 208V service one day and move the same equipment to a building with a 230V service.I am looking for full-load efficiencies of "premium efficiency" 480V, 8-pole motors, but noted that Table 12-12 in NEMA MG 1- Revision does not include them. Is this full table available? In accordance with subclause 31.4.4.2 (Voltage Spikes) from Nema MG1, stator winding insulation systems of definite purpose inverter fed motors shall be designed to withstand the following limits at the motor terminals1. For motors with Vrated £ 600 V, Vpeak should be less than or equal to 3.1*Vrated (where 3.1 = 1.1 * 2 * sqrt(2) ).2. For motors with Vrated > 600 V, Vpeak should be less than or equal to 2.04*Vrated (where 2.04 = 2.5 * sqrt(2) / sqrt(3) ). We were wondering why this difference exists. Why is there not a single criterion that is valid for every base rating voltage? Now looking a little more deeply into the equations of the two criteria, one can notice that the criterion valid for motors with Vrated £ 600 V does not take into account the term sqrt(3). Does it mean that this criterion is valid for delta-connected motors only? That is, if the motor is star-connected, should the criterion 1 be divided by sqrt(3) to be correctly considered? On the other hand, the criterion valid for motors with Vrated > 600 V takes into account the term sqrt(3) and this may lead to the conclusion that it is valid for star-connected motors only. Is this the case? Or can the criterion 2 be literally applied to delta-connected motors too? In other words, does the term Vpeak of these criteria refer to phase voltage (line-to-neutral voltage) or line voltage (line-to-line voltage)?
1.91
What if the motor I am referring to is reduced voltage, soft-start with no VFD?
1.92
1) Is there a standard for motor manufacturer to follow in regards to shaft voltage/current?2) What are the upper/lower limits for shaft of voltage/current? >3) I have read where V motors "typically" include one insulated bearing in the motor to protect against shaft voltage/current.
1.93
I am a vibration analyst working in Michigan. I have a client that wants to know what a good vibration level is. I am quoting your MG 1 mechanical vibration standard. I would like to know if the values given in the table are "filter-in" or "filter-out". I do not have the whole standard, just the page with the table that was faxed to me by a motor repair shop.
1.94
Are the following (ODP, TEFC, TENV, TEAO) motor codes or motor designations?
1.95
I am a specifying engineer and would like to improve our specifications with regards to inverter duty-rated motors. I see NEMA has a standard, MG Part 31, that explains how to build a NEMA-rated motor. We can specify that the motors need to meet this standard, but what about proof? Does this standard also require that the motor come with a nameplate that states it was constructed to meet this standard? We have some suppliers that are giving us a verbal confirmation that their motors are inverter duty-rated, but this does not fly in our business. Perhaps you have a written standard specification to obtain an inverter duty-rated motor?
1.96
The user would like clarification on whether or not compliance of a motor to Part 31 would/could also cover or partially cover its compliance to Part 30 of the MG-1.
1.97
A. Customer has a group of pumps driven by 50Hp, RPM, open drip-proof, premium efficiency motors. One of the pumps on the order was factory-certified tested with a calibrated drive motor. The test verified the pump performance in that the maximum load that the pump could produce at any point in its operation parameters was 48.9 BHP. B. The motors are operating on a PWM variable speed assembly with by-pass contactor that enables them to operate on commercial power in the event of the VFD failure. C. When the pumps are operated at design conditions which are 48 BHP, the current on the motors either on PWM system or on the commercial power by-pass system is approximately 10% over the nameplate full load amperage. D. The input power is balanced within 2 volts and is 498 - 500 - 498. We have operated the motors on the VFD at 460, 470, 480, 490, and 500 volts without any appreciable change in motor full load amperage. E. The motors are rated 94.5% efficiency, 57 full load amps. Unfortunately, it would appear that they are operating at a lower efficiency, and at 62, 63, and 65 amps. The motor manufacturer indicates that the published data in his design information is a "nominal" rating and that the motors on this particular order may vary a significant amount from the published data. F. The overcurrent problem is identical on all of the pumps and motors on this particular order, so it just isn't that one motor may be an anomaly. Our questions are as follows 1. What is the definition of "nominal" efficiencies? 2. Is there a range of efficiency values for this motor Hp/Speed that the production motors must meet in order to comply with NEMA standards? 3. Is there a "minimum" efficiency that these motors "must" meet to comply with these standards? 4. Does NEMA actually require that individual manufacturers test their motors to comply with NEMA standards, and does NEMA actually review or witness these tests to ensure compliance? 5. Does NEMA visit motor manufacturers and randomly test a motor now and then to ensure that the motors that are being produced meet NEMA specifications?
1.98
Was there an efficiency rating for NEMA D motors installed during the -?
1.99
Can NEMA Nominal efficiency levels be met at either full load or 3/4 load, or just at full load? I have been involved in previous programs that accepted either.
1.100
The efficiency levels are provided with nominal and minimum efficiency values. I am correct when I say that a motor rating must meet both of these criteria and not just one or the other, right?
1.101
I am seeking the standard for the permutations of the three phases in an L21-20 plug or receptacle. There are two possible permutations of the three phases, and using the wrong one causes motors to run in reverse, which would be detrimental. I am familiar with a labeling of the 4-poles as W for system ground, and X,Y,Z as the three phases of 120V with respect to W. Is the standard to have X leading Y, Y leading Z (each by a third of a cycle) or to have X leading Z, Z leading Y (each by a third of a cycle)?
1.102
How are current pulsations defined in NEMA MG 1 (in regard to an induction motor driving a reciprocating compressor)?
1.103
What under voltage is allowed on 380/220-volt systems at 50 Hz? How low can it be set at for a transfer switch with a default setting at -15% dip?